Unbanned TheMostHated banned by [9th]CraZe

[David.]

• What is your in-game name?
  TheMostHated
   
• Which staff member banned you?
  [9th]CraZe
   
• When did you get banned?
  12/20/18
   
• What is the ban reason?
  dm, ruining rp, not here to rp
   
• Personal comment

  Hello everyone & Merry Christmas

   

  The last time I played, I /quited in peace - tried to log in later on, saw that I had been banned offline..May I have some explanation by the banning administrator ?

   

  Cheers

 

Edited January 1, 2019 by Jelly

[Chip]

Hello, TheMostHated!

 

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[CraZe]

Two groups are in middle of a roleplay scenario, one member of the group call you via /pm for help, you come, and start shooting without any roleplay or reason.

It's obvious that you are playing on the server only to shoot and kill, you have no intentions to roleplay whatsoever.

 

20-12-2018 14:53:44 - [TheMostHated (24)(959) -> [TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680)] Declare war to 9TH
20-12-2018 15:35:31 - [[TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680) -> TheMostHated (15)(959)] we're turning on 9th
20-12-2018 15:35:35 - [TheMostHated (15)(959) -> [TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680)] realy? when
20-12-2018 15:35:37 - [[TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680) -> TheMostHated (15)(959)] come avispa, they're inside
20-12-2018 15:35:42 - [[TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680) -> TheMostHated (15)(959)] they might attack us
20-12-2018 15:35:43 - [TheMostHated (15)(959) -> [TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680)] OMW
20-12-2018 15:35:51 - [[TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680) -> TheMostHated (15)(959)] we're 3-4 here
20-12-2018 15:35:54 - [[TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680) -> TheMostHated (15)(959)] FAST
20-12-2018 15:36:17 - [TheMostHated (15)(959) -> [TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680)] ?
20-12-2018 15:36:40 - [[TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680) -> TheMostHated (15)(959)] They came to meet us, but it seems they gonna turn on me
20-12-2018 15:36:52 - [TheMostHated (15)(959) -> [TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680)] WAIT ME PLEASE.
20-12-2018 15:37:07 - [[TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680) -> TheMostHated (15)(959)] they're leaving
20-12-2018 15:39:09 - [TheMostHated (15)(959) -> [TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680)] shoot before they do
20-12-2018 15:39:11 - [TheMostHated (15)(959) -> [TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680)] they got aimbots
20-12-2018 15:39:36 - [TheMostHated (15)(959) -> [TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680)] shoot before they do
20-12-2018 15:39:36 - [TheMostHated (15)(959) -> [TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680)] shoot before they do

 

 

[David.]

Yes, I was called by Aldo over /PM. As far as I know, Mudoo is a light roleplay server, where extreme RP is not required in such scenarios. 

 

Why don't you provide the rest of the chatlog?

 

When I arrived at the scenario, I saw the [9th] guys requesting Andolinis to apologise, and the Andolini guys were denying. Then I see the most of your members doing /me takes out guns, /me reloads his deagle, and such, so they were preparing for a clear shootout. Hence the /PMS of me to Aldo ''shoot before they do'', knowing half of your family members use strong aimbot, starting from Pearl, which the whole server complains for, but nobody has taken action so far. 

 

As I saw your members taking out guns and preparing to shoot, I shot before any other party did. Where is the DM here? Weren't you guys going to shoot in a matter of seconds? 

 

Now my question is simple: If it was DM, why did you not stop the ''DM'' as soon as I started shooting, but you finished DM-ing me back, and after losing, you claim it was DM. Shooting back means you fell in compliance with the conditions of the shootout, therefore you returned fire on us.

 

DM scenes get stopped as soon as they occur, not you shoot back and when you die ban the other party for DM-ing you. Shame on you for this one.

 

Your assumptions that I'm not here to RP are clearly wrong, because you are judging me based on this situation, nothing else.

 

The fact that you offline banned me is very disrespectful towards me, you could have given me a chance to speak and solve this issue together ingame, even if it had to end with a ban, I would make sure to direct you these points, and I guarantee you would have thought twice before taking action.

 

 

Edited December 26, 2018 by David.

[CraZe]

14 hours ago, David. said:

Yes, I was called by Aldo over /PM. As far as I know, Mudoo is a light roleplay server, where extreme RP is not required in such scenarios. 

 

Why don't you provide the rest of the chatlog?

 

When I arrived at the scenario, I saw the [9th] guys requesting Andolinis to apologise, and the Andolini guys were denying. Then I see the most of your members doing /me takes out guns, /me reloads his deagle, and such, so they were preparing for a clear shootout. Hence the /PMS of me to Aldo ''shoot before they do'', knowing half of your family members use strong aimbot, starting from Pearl, which the whole server complains for, but nobody has taken action so far. 

 

As I saw your members taking out guns and preparing to shoot, I shot before any other party did. Where is the DM here? Weren't you guys going to shoot in a matter of seconds? 

 

Now my question is simple: If it was DM, why did you not stop the ''DM'' as soon as I started shooting, but you finished DM-ing me back, and after losing, you claim it was DM. Shooting back means you fell in compliance with the conditions of the shootout, therefore you returned fire on us.

 

DM scenes get stopped as soon as they occur, not you shoot back and when you die ban the other party for DM-ing you. Shame on you for this one.

 

Your assumptions that I'm not here to RP are clearly wrong, because you are judging me based on this situation, nothing else.

 

The fact that you offline banned me is very disrespectful towards me, you could have given me a chance to speak and solve this issue together ingame, even if it had to end with a ban, I would make sure to direct you these points, and I guarantee you would have thought twice before taking action.

 

 

Mudoo is a light roleplay server, and that doesn't mean you can call backup via /pm, it's not allowed and you definately knew about it.

 

You had absolutely no purpose to be there. You responded to an OOC backup call, which makes the situation OOC for you. You can't respond to such backup's, you broke another rule there as well. No, we were not gonna shoot, Keith, the leader was trying to hold us back, and we were going to. You can't shoot based on assumptions. Again, you had no reason to be there, you ruined a whole roleplay scenario there. and again, we weren't gonna shoot.

 

You weren't involved in the roleplay scenario, you just respond to an OOC backup, came, and started shooting.

 

In which book does it state that an incident is to be immediately stopped if it's Deathmatch? Keep in mind, we weren't aware that you were called OOCly, we found out later that you had been called OOCly by Aldo, which makes the situation more complicated.

 

I offline banned you because you didn't seem to be logging back in, i had waited 2 days for you to join the game, you didn't, thus i had to request one. You can always explain here and if the ban was invalid, i would unban you immmediately.

 

Half of my family members aimbots? Go report them with proper evidence, as for Pearl, all we get is complaints, which are without proof. You have been reported multiple times for aimbot as well, should we ban you?

[David.]

Come on, is it the first time a backup via /PM happens? Are you saying that none ever responded to OOC backup and didn't get punished this way? That's why I wish we had a discussion about this ingame, I logged in the next day, not after 2 days, figured that I was banned. 

 

You were definitely going to shoot, hence why I request the rest of the chatlogs. As I mentioned above, all of your members were taking guns out and doing /me reloads his weapon/deagle/etc, upon Andolinis's denial for apologise. Why would you take out weapons and reload them, if you weren't going to shoot? Admit it already, the shootout was seconds away., until I shot.

 

I did have a reason to be there, Andolinis are well known my friends and I've had previous RP beef with 9th. You were threatening the Andolinis by taking out guns, don't expect me to stand and watch you start shooting them. 

 

I won't report any of your members, I was just pointing it out. I'm not into reporting people unless they FULLY deserve it, I rather speak and solve it with them.  As for Pearl, there's 2 things he's not banned, but this is not the point of the topic: Therés either no evidence on him but the whole server already knows, or there's no admin with big balls to ban him already.  

 

I may have been reported for many things, but least is the evidence on me.  There's no people crying about me aimbotting on /p like they do on Pearl/NED, not to mention the fact Pearl/Ned himself claims he has aimbot  and lag cs over /p and over corners, yet none cares.  Sure haters do report you when they get killed once, twice, or thrice. But people don't simply cry every fucking day, non fucking stop, about a person in /p and surprisingly no one is bothering about him yet.

 

As for the book, caling backup via /PM is not the DM which you are talking of. I will repeat my question: If it was DM (leaving aside that I WAS CALLED OOCLY) why did you not stop it? Why did you shoot back, and after dying, you claim it was DM? But first you had fun DM-ing me back, and then, all of a sudden, offline ban me for DM-ing. Nice one.

 

So you are saying, if I was called RP-ly, but DID THE EXACT THINGS as I did, it wouldn't be DM? 

 

Edited December 26, 2018 by David.

[CraZe]

13 hours ago, David. said:

Come on, is it the first time a backup via /PM happens? Are you saying that none ever responded to OOC backup and didn't get punished this way? That's why I wish we had a discussion about this ingame, I logged in the next day, not after 2 days, figured that I was banned. 

 

You were definitely going to shoot, hence why I request the rest of the chatlogs. As I mentioned above, all of your members were taking guns out and doing /me reloads his weapon/deagle/etc, upon Andolinis's denial for apologise. Why would you take out weapons and reload them, if you weren't going to shoot? Admit it already, the shootout was seconds away., until I shot.

 

I did have a reason to be there, Andolinis are well known my friends and I've had previous RP beef with 9th. You were threatening the Andolinis by taking out guns, don't expect me to stand and watch you start shooting them. 

 

I won't report any of your members, I was just pointing it out. I'm not into reporting people unless they FULLY deserve it, I rather speak and solve it with them.  As for Pearl, there's 2 things he's not banned, but this is not the point of the topic: Therés either no evidence on him but the whole server already knows, or there's no admin with big balls to ban him already.  

 

I may have been reported for many things, but least is the evidence on me.  There's no people crying about me aimbotting on /p like they do on Pearl/NED, not to mention the fact Pearl/Ned himself claims he has aimbot  and lag cs over /p and over corners, yet none cares.  Sure haters do report you when they get killed once, twice, or thrice. But people don't simply cry every fucking day, non fucking stop, about a person in /p and surprisingly no one is bothering about him yet.

 

We always punish people if we find them calling backup via /pm.

 

We were going to shoot, or no. either way you still had no reason to be there. We had to redo the meetings since it was ruined. It would have been fine, if you were called via wt or phone and ambushed us, but PM changes the whole thing.

 

Andolini didn't even knew you were helping them. They were completely unaware of your presence there. I think you were immediately kicked from Andolini right after. I was threatening Aldo, while Keith and Arthur were trying to move us away. KEEP IN MIND, we were there to  be allies, and discuss turfs.

 

We can't take action unless we have evidence, give me evidence on him and i'll be the first one to ban.

 

 

[David.]

As for the point that I was called OOCly, yes, that's not right, but this is not the first time someone gets called OOCly and the situation goes just fine, is it? It didn't have to end this way. 

 

James, you are falling in conflict with your own words. Above, you posted the chatlogs of where Aldo called me in the situation, I did not come there in my own. How are you claiming now that Andolinis didn't know I was helping them? What about Aldo PM-ing me? How were they not aware? 

Once again, they called me, RPly or not, they did. They fully knew I was there to help them. Plus the fact that I PM-ed Keith ''shoot before they do''. Is that not enough for your to make up your mind that they knew I was helping them? 

 

You weren't there to be allies, you were there to shoot their faces, you don't become allies by threatening people and making them apologize, and then taking out weapons and reloading them, lol.  Provide the rest of the chatlog so the whole server can see them.

 

 20-12-2018 15:35:31 - [[TCL]Aldo_Andolini (4)(5680) -> TheMostHated (15)(959)] we're turning on 9th  ~> Is this how you become allies?

 

After taking out weapons and asking Andolinis to apologize, some of your boys were saying: ''Come on, tick tack, time is going''. I remember the scenario pretty well, hence why I request the rest of the chatlogs, which you are failing to provide.  

So, what else should I have waited for? For you guys to blast their deagles in Andolinis'face? I simply acted way faster than you, and shot first.

 

How would it be fine if I was called RP-ly? Wouldn't it be DM anymore? DM is the fact that according to you, I shot without proper reason, not that I came via a NON-RP called way. Please, don't mix things here. 

 

Edited December 26, 2018 by David.

[CraZe]

13 hours ago, David. said:

As for the point that I was called OOCly, yes, that's not right, but this is not the first time someone gets called OOCly and the situation goes just fine, is it? It didn't have to end this way. 

 

James, you are falling in conflict with your own words. Above, you posted the chatlogs of where Aldo called me in the situation, I did not come there in my own. How are you claiming now that Andolinis didn't know I was helping them? What about Aldo PM-ing me? How were they not aware? 

Once again, they called me, RPly or not, they did. They fully knew I was there to help them. Plus the fact that I PM-ed Keith ''shoot before they do''. Is that not enough for your to make up your mind that they knew I was helping them? 

 

You weren't there to be allies, you were there to shoot their faces, you don't become allies by threatening people and making them apologize, and then taking out weapons and reloading them, lol. Provide the rest of the chatlog so the whole server can see them.

 

After taking out weapons and asking Andolinis to apologize, some of your boys were saying: ''Come on, tick tack, time is going''. I remember the scenario pretty well, hence why I request the rest of the chatlogs, which you are failing to provide.  

So, what else should I have waited for? For you guys to blast their deagles in Andolinis'face? I simply acted way faster than you, and shot first.

 

How would it be fine if I was called RP-ly? Wouldn't it be DM anymore? DM is the fact that according to you, I shot without proper reason, not that I came via a NON-RP called way. Please, don't mix things here. 

 

Each incident that occurs with players calling backup via /pm are wrong and they are to be punished if caught.

 

That's weird though,  Aldo was obviously aware, rest were not. We asked Andolini's if they called you or not, they all refused, which led me to me checking logs. ''They called me, RPly or not, they did'' There is a big difference, you being called via pm is NOT ALLOWED, the situation would have been completely different if you were called IC'ly, which would give you a reason to shoot us.

 

Let's say, two groups are arguing with each other, a random guy shows up and starts shooting with no roleplay whatsoever, wouldn't that be DM? That's exactly what you did. You PMed Keith that, yes, but does that mean he is in compliance with you? He didn't answer your PM, bear in mind. How come if they knew you were helping them, why did they kick you from group right after? If Andolini's had shot, it would have been fine, BUT you had no reason to shoot us, you were called OOCly, you weren't aware of the situation ICly at all. Even if you came there, and roleplayed, it would still not work out as you had not been called by WT or other IC device.

 

You shot without a proper reason, you had no reason to be there at all, you had no idea about the situation ICly, you went there because Aldo called you via PM, you came and blasted your M4. You should not have responded to his backup.

 

What was your reason of shooting? If it was helping them, save it, you were called by PM, you weren't aware of the situation.

[CraZe]

https://pastebin.com/p0cEAGQi

 

It's clear, Aldo was the one there who was hungry for a shootout. We were actually leaving until Aldo started shouting saying No one leaves since he was waiting for your arrival

 

No one aside from Aldo told you to shoot there. Every roleplay doesn't need to end with a shootout. We were leaving.

Edited December 26, 2018 by CraZe

[CraZe]

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[David.]

Of course they would refuse, because nobody else but Aldo called me. That's enough for me to go and help them, I don't need to be called by all the /id andolinis ingame. As for kicking, I have been kicked way more times before that shootout even happened, I don't know, I have been told that they keep only _andolinis in the groupmembers, in this case I was not. Keith did not have to respond in my PM, I didn't ask him anything. I told him to shoot first, that's it. 

 

As I said above, being called via PM is not right, and here I do agree with you, even though Mudoo is a light RP server and this is not the first case someone gets called via PM. 

 

The only thing I don't agree with you is the fact that you banned me for DM. You are not answering my question, which is why did you have fun ''DM''ing me back, and after dying, you come and punishing me for DM. Why did you have to re-create the situation if you already shot back? You could have stopped me from shooting and continue your RP with Andolinis. 

 

Man up and admit your wrongdoings, I may be wrong here, but you wrong as well, for the only fact that you had fun DM-ing me back rather than stopping me and resuming your so-called RP ''We were becoming allies, but we had guns out and we were threatening them''.

 

And again, if I was called RP'ly, how would it not be DM? Is it the way you are called, that differs the situation if it's DM or not? I think nope, 

Yet, it wasn't DM, for the fact that my friends were being threatened with guns and their time was ''tick tacking'' (as RPed by [9th]. I won't stand watching my friends get killed. If there's something that makes this case invalid, it's the way I was called (Non-Rply), not the ''DM''. Don't have fun shooting back and after dying claim it was DM. 

[David.]

5 minutes ago, CraZe said:

https://pastebin.com/p0cEAGQi

 

It's clear, Aldo was the one there who was hungry for a shootout. We were actually leaving until Aldo started shouting saying No one leaves since he was waiting for your arrival

 

No one aside from Aldo told you to shoot there. Every roleplay doesn't need to end with a shootout. We were leaving.

Beautiful logs. But you weren't leaving. I will request you for the 4th time, before I contact anyone else who ha s access, post the full chatlogs, where you and your family members were threatening Andolinis for the apology, and Andolinis denying. Post the chatlogs of the moment you take out your guns and reload them, preparing to blast them on Andolinis face.  Post the chatlogs where your members claim that the time is ''tick tacking'' as they reload their weapons with /me.

Edited December 26, 2018 by David.

[CraZe]

13 hours ago, David. said:

Of course they would refuse, because nobody else but Aldo called me. That's enough for me to go and help them, I don't need to be called by all the /id andolinis ingame. As for kicking, I have been kicked way more times before that shootout even happened, I don't know, I have been told that they keep only _andolinis in the groupmembers, in this case I was not. Keith did not have to respond in my PM, I didn't ask him anything. I told him to shoot first, that's it. 

 

As I said above, being called via PM is not right, and here I do agree with you, even though Mudoo is a light RP server and this is not the first case someone gets called via PM. 

 

The only thing I don't agree with you is the fact that you banned me for DM. You are not answering my question, which is why did you have fun ''DM''ing me back, and after dying, you come and punishing me for DM. Why did you have to re-create the situation if you already shot back? You could have stopped me from shooting and continue your RP with Andolinis. 

 

Man up and admit your wrongdoings, I may be wrong here, but you wrong as well, for the only fact that you had fun DM-ing me back rather than stopping me and resuming your so-called RP ''We were becoming allies, but we had guns out and we were threatening them''.

 

And again, if I was called RP'ly, how would it not be DM? Is it the way you are called, that differs the situation if it's DM or not? I think nope, 

Yet, it wasn't DM, for the fact that my friends were being threatened with guns and their time was ''tick tacking'' (as RPed by [9th]. I won't stand watching my friends get killed. If there's something that makes this case invalid, it's the way I was called (Non-Rply), not the ''DM''. Don't have fun shooting back and after dying claim it was DM. 

No it's not enough, you shouldn't have responded to the backup call. And that's not true, you were kicked from the group exactly for what happened.

 

Because we were not aware that you were called by PM. We all thought you were called by wt or something, When we asked, they said they didn't call you. Checked logs, i see Aldo PMing you for help.

 

I did nothing wrong here except for offline banning you which i should have talked to you and i apologize for it. And as i told you, we were leaving, not every roleplay ends with shootout.

 

If you were called by Wt, it would make sense, you would have been there to ambush us and declare war on us, and giving you a reason to shoot. But just coming because Aldo pms you is a whole different scenario.

[CraZe]

13 hours ago, David. said:

Beautiful logs. But you weren't leaving. I will request you for the 4th time, before I contact anyone else who ha s access, post the full chatlogs, where you and your family members were threatening Andolinis for the apology, and Andolinis denying. Post the chatlogs of the moment you take out your guns and reload them, preparing to blast them on Andolinis face.  Post the chatlogs where your members claim that the time is ''tick tacking'' as they reload their weapons with /me.

It won't help you. EVEN if we were gonna shoot, you still broke the rules by responding to  the non backup call and shooting us with no reason.

[Derek]

Stop bullshitting so much in long posts god, just come out clean and we'll set a review date.

[David.]

As you do apologize for banning me offline, I do apologize for responding to a situation via a non-RPish way.  I was a bit tensioned from a day before where [9TH]Shorty had been insulting my family in the eyes of whole server in /p, so I might have reacted wrong.

 

What pisses me off is the fact that you guys shot me back and fell in compliance with the ''DM'' which you claim, and then ban me afterwards. 

 

You weren't leaving, I see you won't post the chatlogs of you guys threatening and taking guns out with the /me lines of reloading them. That clearly proves you were not leaving but were going to shoot sooner or later. 

 

However, I have presented my arguments very well for everyone.  I am not looking to argue furthermore, I am looking to be Unbanned.

Edited December 26, 2018 by David.

[CraZe]

So do you accept the fact that you Deathmatched or no?

[David.]

If I accept the fact that I deathmatched, you have to accept that you DM-ed me back. Taking into account that you're the admin, I am the one in loss.

[CraZe]

13 hours ago, David. said:

If I accept the fact that I deathmatched, you have to accept that you DM-ed me back. Taking into account that you're the admin, I am the one in loss.

Right, it looks like i am being too nice and patient.

 

Denied, feel free to appeal once you can admit to your mistakes.

[LocMax]

I reviewed the logs and it is clear that

 

1. PM was used for a roleplay matter (calling Mario there and discussing when to shoot)
2. Both sides at scene were hostile to each other and a shootout was clearly inevitable considering Craze himself withdrew a gun and started ticking time
3. Deathmatch is when somebody is shot without a reason, it is questionable if this was deathmatch, it was more so poor roleplay and use of non RP channels

 

So, continue to handle this based on what's clear - and that is that Mario followed an improper request to come through PM which is not allowed, and that he himself used it to give instructions to them. 

[David.]

Finally someone judging this right.

 

Matthew, I have admitted that I did wrong by responding to the situation non-rply, and I will apologise once again. 

 

I think you've said it all right, no need for other comments by my side.

 

What's left for me is to wish an unban as soon as possible, but that's up to you.

 

Sincerely,

Mario

[CraZe]

To be unbanned on 1/1/2019

[Jelly]

Unbanned.