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STANDARD INCREASE


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17 hours ago, LocMax said:

Hello dear players.

 

We are looking towards improving the standards of the server for all the players. This means that we're looking to reduce the amount of trolling in the server, annoying actions that are purely done to bother another party of players, generally uncivil behavior that doesn't contribute to the gameplay positively and improve the quality of scenes that occur.

 

We understand the large majority here enjoy the endless action and shootouts that the server brings. However, even those activities can be civilized. Even those activities can exclude toxic behavior, trolling, annoying behavior and the series of other negative actions that somehow became standardized here.

 

By reiteration of existing rules and implementation of new rules, we will limit certain behaviors and acts. These are applicable to everyone regardless of whether they are business group, criminal group or police group.

 

For the period of two weeks after the publishing of this topic, players will first be verbally informed of the violations of these newly implemented changes. After two weeks have passed, the punishments will be escalated based on severity of rulebreak and the scale the rulebreak affected other players and scenarios.

 

1. ANNOYING / CHILDISH / IMMATURE BEHAVIOR AND DISRUPTING SCENES

From here on, you will be punished if you intentionally bother other players, by any kind of annoying, unreasonable, or disruptive behavior. Some common examples:

 

• You see a group of players holding a roleplay activity (let's say marathon event by government), group of players running on the road. You decide to follow them and horn non-stop at them, shouting "MOVE!!!!", "FUCK YOUR MARATHON" and so on. That classifies as annoying behavior as you can simply drive away using a different route.

 

• Randomly approaching cops who established a perimeter with barriers due to an ongoing situation, shouting "FUCK YOU COPS", or destroying the barriers, driving through the scene repeatedly. That classifies as annoying behavior as you are in no way involved with the scene, yet you're being an annoyance to those who are apart of it. Find something else to do.

 

• This also applies to cops who disrupt civilian's or criminal's activities. In example, when a group of players are having a roleplay activity that doesn't involve shooting or hostility, and the police show up and begin ramming, or shooting.

 

2. ADMINISTRATIVELY PUNISHING ABUSIVE POLICE OFFICERS

This is another step we're taking in order to increase the trust of players in police. Law enforcement agencies are official server factions. They therefore must be of certain standards. If a police officer randomly shoots somebody who is uninvolved in a situation under claims of "corruption" - that will be classified as DM just like it would be for any other player.

 

Furthermore, making somebody suspected just as they are about to lose previous suspections, with intent of extending their wanted time, is also considered abuse and will be administratively punished. Randomly suspecting players who haven't done anything will also be considered script abuse.

 

In general, more abusive or malicious actions will be punished administratively by staff rather than "ICly" by faction leaders. However, important to note that corruption in roleplay is allowed. Roleplayed corruption classifies as being corrupt and the corruption is roleplayed all the way. Examples: taking bribery, releasing friends or bribed players from jail, kidnap and torture of prisoners, and so on. Just claiming toe be corrupt but not roleplaying or putting effort into it does not count.

 

3. DRIVING

Driving in this server is admittedly painstaking. You cannot drive your vehicle from Idlewood to Market without being rammed by somebody on the way. Players drive in such reckless, careless and intentionally dangerous ways, which causes other players to be unnecessarily rammed and their vehicles damaged.

 

Therefore, hence fourth, ramming will be more observed and punished than before. It is your due diligence to drive reasonably, in a manner through which you do not threaten to ram other players, regardless of lag, or accident. If you decide to intentionally drive in such manner (ie. in wrong lane across market, or city hall) and you ram somebody, you do risk being administratively punished.

 

Obviously, when you're wanted and fleeing from police, you can drive erratically. Same for emergency services when they are responding to a situation with sirens or lights.

 

4. ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN CRIMINALS AND POLICE

As we decided to take step 2 - punishing abusive police officers administratively, we also expect the criminals to avoid acting unreasonably and engaging cops where it would be unrealistic or unreasonable to engage cops. In example, if you are being pulled over by police for violating traffic laws and you choose to evade - you may not call backup for this situation and you may only shoot as last resort. 

 

There's no sense in turning a simple traffic stop that would in worst case scenario result in you receiving a $5,000 ticket into a mass shooting. Engaging the cops should be last resort in any situation, but we will specially enforce it in this case of traffic evasions. 

 

Also a general reminder that you may not chase cops. The general task of criminals is to avoid being caught committing a crime in first place, and if you are caught, your task is to escape police. Your task is not to kill all the cops in the server for whatever reason.

 

Additional server rules which will be enforced by administration are:

Police are not allowed to drive-by vehicles of suspects who had not opened fire on police regardless of vehicle armor level or speed unless:

  • The suspects opened fire on the police whilst on-foot
    • then the police may drive-by their vehicle if the vehicle is armored or high-speed vehicle, or if the suspects drive-by afterwards
  • The suspects opened fire on the police whilst in vehicle (drive-by)
    • then the police may drive-by their vehicle regardless of armor or speed

 

Criminals are not allowed to call for backup or initiate mass shootouts in situations where they evade from a traffic stop. If you are being pulled over for violation of traffic laws, and you are not already wanted of a felonious crime (you have a crime that has a [F] label in it) then you may not call backup or create a mass shooting.

 

5. MISCELLANEOUS

Players won't be able to drive-by from vehicles which are upgraded to level 3 bulletproof windows. They won't be able to /switchweapon when passengers inside such a vehicle, and weapons will automatically be removed when entering as passenger in such vehicles. You can have a FREE downgrade to level 2 window armor level.

 

Spike strips will work on bulletproof wheels so the police don't resort to shooting evading vehicles but rather use tactics and spike strips to stop evading ivehicles.

 

These reiterations or additions are going to be implemented gradually. For the period of two weeks you will be receiving verbal warnings for the violation of these newly implemented or changed rules. These verbal warnings will go on your record. If you continue violating them after verbal warnings, the punishment will escalate.

There are some other things to be discussed just like the usage of "XDDD, lol, cba, brb" ICly, i do not think that's roleplayish, and personally i qualify it as a mix betwen the IC and OOC.

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Promote metagaming to the server. It is unacceptable to tolerate metagaming if you want to increase the rp level. Remove walkie talkies aswell. 

Players massively shout via walkie talkie, bkbk kos id "x". It kills the experience.

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1 minute ago, Hammer said:

There are some other things to be discussed just like the usage of "XDDD, lol, cba, brb" ICly, i do not think that's roleplayish, and personally i qualify it as a mix betwen the IC and OOC.

With these changes we’re not fully expecting the server to become a proper and no mistake in roleplay type server, we’re hoping and aiming for a more civilized enviroment, this behavior that you’re mentioning is of course reportable, but I say that it’s something that would still stick around, hopefully in the future we will be able to transform it in a more RP friendly server, but as of now, our aim is towards civilization and a little bit more realism.

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There is another problem that can be seen almost everywhere and every situation, which is mixing IC and OOC matters with each other! It became common for players to use /L ((which considered as an IC chat)) for matters like “hey I called admin wait, I go eat brb” and etc. This ruins the image and it should be considered and taken care of if you want to increase the quality and standards. On the other hand unrealistic car surfing for all players (( PD and Criminal, all included)) and it turns the rp server to some freeroam server. This also needs to be taken care of. Of course there are plenty of matters that should be solved in order to raise the bar, but these I stated, I’ve encountered em most.

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22 hours ago, LocMax said:

Criminals are not allowed to call for backup or initiate mass shootouts in situations where they evade from a traffic stop. If you are being pulled over for violation of traffic laws, and you are not already wanted of a felonious crime (you have a crime that has a [F] label in it) then you may not call backup or create a mass shooting.

Uhmm, just a note;
You would need to explain to these people that they cannot use felony crimes as a way to bait out LEO as well, they're already supposed to escape it, not initiate/engage LEOs

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57 minutes ago, Tina said:

Uhmm, just a note;
You would need to explain to these people that they cannot use felony crimes as a way to bait out LEO as well, they're already supposed to escape it, not initiate/engage LEOs

Lol rules cant stop trigger happy kids, they rather chase cops, I say let em have fun

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1 - Making people behave decently in the server and prohibiting them from disrupting situations they are uninvolved in does not make the server heavy RP.

2 - "Unrealistic driving" rule does not exist. Players can jump off cliffs, drive however they want as long as that does not cause ramming of other players.

3 - Most of you never played real roleplay servers that were considered heavy roleplay (ie. RCRP, LSRP) so it's difficult for you to grasp the difference. Heavy roleplays require character development, prohibit any kind of metagaming, powergaming, there's no turfs, no missions like smuggle and trafficking, no volutneers, and the list goes on endlessly. So claiming "omgggggg  why becoming heavy rp" is nonsensical since we're 3 years away from being a heavy rp server.

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18 minutes ago, LocMax said:

1 - Making people behave decently in the server and prohibiting them from disrupting situations they are uninvolved in does not make the server heavy RP.

2 - "Unrealistic driving" rule does not exist. Players can jump off cliffs, drive however they want as long as that does not cause ramming of other players.

3 - Most of you never played real roleplay servers that were considered heavy roleplay (ie. RCRP, LSRP) so it's difficult for you to grasp the difference. Heavy roleplays require character development, prohibit any kind of metagaming, powergaming, there's no turfs, no missions like smuggle and trafficking, no volutneers, and the list goes on endlessly. So claiming "omgggggg  why becoming heavy rp" is nonsensical since we're 3 years away from being a heavy rp server.

Not to brag, in RP servers, player can get a jailed for 999 hours due to non rp driving, so It would he awesome that it turns into rule in here as well (( of course with less harsh punishments))

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19 hours ago, Hammer said:

There are some other things to be discussed just like the usage of "XDDD, lol, cba, brb" ICly, i do not think that's roleplayish, and personally i qualify it as a mix betwen the IC and OOC.

+1 bring back mg rules it will be funny

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16 hours ago, Jamie said:

Lol rules cant stop trigger happy kids, they rather chase cops, I say let em have fun

Yes and get banned, sure let them have fun before they're banned xd

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7 hours ago, LocMax said:

1 - Making people behave decently in the server and prohibiting them from disrupting situations they are uninvolved in does not make the server heavy RP.

2 - "Unrealistic driving" rule does not exist. Players can jump off cliffs, drive however they want as long as that does not cause ramming of other players.

3 - Most of you never played real roleplay servers that were considered heavy roleplay (ie. RCRP, LSRP) so it's difficult for you to grasp the difference. Heavy roleplays require character development, prohibit any kind of metagaming, powergaming, there's no turfs, no missions like smuggle and trafficking, no volutneers, and the list goes on endlessly. So claiming "omgggggg  why becoming heavy rp" is nonsensical since we're 3 years away from being a heavy rp server.

Fr fr but those were westerners

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20 hours ago, LocMax said:

1 - Making people behave decently in the server and prohibiting them from disrupting situations they are uninvolved in does not make the server heavy RP.

2 - "Unrealistic driving" rule does not exist. Players can jump off cliffs, drive however they want as long as that does not cause ramming of other players.

3 - Most of you never played real roleplay servers that were considered heavy roleplay (ie. RCRP, LSRP) so it's difficult for you to grasp the difference. Heavy roleplays require character development, prohibit any kind of metagaming, powergaming, there's no turfs, no missions like smuggle and trafficking, no volutneers, and the list goes on endlessly. So claiming "omgggggg  why becoming heavy rp" is nonsensical since we're 3 years away from being a heavy rp server.

For that you need to change many things. I would not like to start naming everything but first of all add an RP test, this server has quite an history I heard but not really good reputation just because of metagaming and mixing IC with OOC, talking foreign language in walkie-talkie etc... So many things has to change in order to make things better. From my experience, you can't change things overnight. You need to take actions or like you said, actions had to be taken 3 years ago.
Having over 10 years of experience in different SAMP servers (TRP, RCRP, LSRP) then I expected whole a lot more when I joined Valrise, right now it's full of trigger happy kids who have 0 will to actually roleplay.
Hopefully you can change some things but good luck with it.

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