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  • What is your in-game name?
    Josh_Libert
     
  • Which staff member banned you?
    Leonardo_Carter
     
  • When did you get banned?
    10/12/2020
     
  • What is the ban reason?
    Harrasing newbies, bad attitude
     
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    I have no words for it, I just want to know how was it harrasment, when I told him to change his name many times since he's not related to me neither Ic'ly, neither OOC'ly. I was told to appeal, so here I am. I want to know how did that happend, and for what. Because I don't like when people impersonating me.

 

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Hello, Josh_Libert!

 

Thank you for submitting an unban request, our staff members will review it shortly. Until then, follow some of these instructions:

  1. Do not message staff members to review your unban request, it will result in extension of its reviewal time.
  2. Be honest and do not attempt to lie to us. We will deny your request upon discovering lies.
  3. Getting banned multiple times is a serious concern and should not happen at all. With every ban your chances of unban are reduced.

 

In the meantime, do not attempt to ban evade. That will directly lead to denial of your request.

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Hello Josh, I am the staff member who banned you. My decision to ban you from the server was reasoned in these aspects:

 

[1] You have a substantially poor punishment history. I have counted a total of 47 punishments prior to yesterday's ban, in which 5 of these were previous bans.

 

[2] Your most recent previous ban was issued in June. All of your five bans have been issued this year. So I tend to believe if you were unbanned with this recent previous history in count, it was under very strict conditions and those who made this decision have done so trusting you.

 

[3] Of these five bans, the last two of them were based in very similar reasons to the one I issued your current, which leads me to believe there seems to be a trait here.

 

[4] You have targetted and systematically harassed a player.

 

[5] It is aggravant to this ban the player you harassed registered yesterday and barely had an hour in the server [was a level 0/1 player] as you began to target him. Therefore, you might have made the worst impression possible of the server to a potential player.

 

 

Now, onto the factual aspect of the ban - I will show you a few frames of the logs.

 

 
12-10-2020 18:51:56 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p Who the fuck stealing my name
12-10-2020 18:52:04 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p I know
12-10-2020 18:53:02 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p Nice name eh?
12-10-2020 18:53:12 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p I am olddest Libert right here.
12-10-2020 18:53:31 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p Other wise you would've level 1.
12-10-2020 18:53:45 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p And yet you're still level 0. Good trie.
12-10-2020 18:54:17 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p All you gonna do you gonna fuck my reputation

12-10-2020 18:57:23 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p I am not fake
12-10-2020 18:57:27 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p Look at my level you idiot.
12-10-2020 18:57:33 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p Okay I'm fake
12-10-2020 18:57:35 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p Ye sure
12-10-2020 18:57:44 - Josh_Libert (57)(23601): /p Yall fucked more than you could

12-10-2020 19:02:45 - Josh_Libert (14)(23601): /p They ban evading to troll me, and to ruin reputation, also impersonating
12-10-2020 19:02:50 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /p Why so hate for Josh?
12-10-2020 19:02:54 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /p What has he done?
12-10-2020 19:02:54 - Josh_Libert (14)(23601): /p When someone impersonated admin he got fucking banned
12-10-2020 19:03:05 - Josh_Libert (14)(23601): /p When a bugger impersonates me no one gives a fuck
12-10-2020 19:03:16 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /p Bugger? Impersonating?
12-10-2020 19:03:27 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /p This guy has a big image for himself doesn't he?

12-10-2020 19:05:28 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /pm 14 you better change your name bro...
12-10-2020 19:05:40 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /pm 14 people will confuse us
12-10-2020 19:05:54 - Josh_Libert (14)(23601): /pm 10 No I won't, you gonna get banned, you either change your name or I will CK you and you will be forced, choise is yours

12-10-2020 19:07:22 - Josh_Libert (14)(23601): /pm 60 I need to CK the fucker
12-10-2020 19:07:26 - Josh_Libert (14)(23601): /pm 60 Impersonating me
12-10-2020 19:07:51 - Josh_Libert (14)(23601): /pm 60 That doesn't mean he can trash my reputation
12-10-2020 19:07:57 - Josh_Libert (14)(23601): /pm 60 I can, fuck it

12-10-2020 19:55:55 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /r hey
12-10-2020 19:56:02 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /r How's work guys?
12-10-2020 19:56:28 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r Ignore.exe, we don't need fake Libert's.

12-10-2020 20:00:23 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /r anyone needs help?
12-10-2020 20:00:30 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r Not from you
12-10-2020 20:00:36 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /r Who is this?
12-10-2020 20:00:46 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r You know damn well who is this.
12-10-2020 20:00:56 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r Chuck the fuck you said
12-10-2020 20:00:56 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /r Excuse me?
12-10-2020 20:01:28 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /r I don't know that guy Josh is acting like a pussy
12-10-2020 20:01:34 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r I am pussy?
12-10-2020 20:01:41 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /r Yes
12-10-2020 20:01:47 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r Come 1v1 fucker we will see who is pussy.
12-10-2020 20:02:45 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r You came into wrong server mate, first you used that name in heavy RP server now here? Bitch please.
12-10-2020 20:02:48 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r Paki
12-10-2020 20:03:22 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r JOSE STFU NO ONE FUCKING CARES

12-10-2020 20:21:01 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /r Any jobs?
12-10-2020 20:21:05 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r No.
12-10-2020 20:21:08 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r For you no.
12-10-2020 20:21:15 - Jose_Libert (10)(73119): /r who are you ma'am?
12-10-2020 20:21:25 - Josh_Libert (62)(23601): /r It's IC chat, as you said so you can't report if I insult you here, fucker.
 
 
My take: objectively, you have harassed a newbie. He wittly answered you a few times, but I see it as a reaction to your aggressive behaviour. You have initiated interaction and incited conflict. That is what resulted in your ban.
 
the "Libert" surname is not used by any active server group, therefore it is not restricted for use. Despite similarity, the names were and could well be differentated, unless one lacks attention. Your surname is not inherited to you and it is the name you chose to use and be recognized for in the server.

 

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First of all, when I was ''newbie'' I was forced to change name from ''Walker''. They weren't group at the time, yet they attacked me and made me change my name. I asked this guy to change his but what I got? He told me ''Change ur name bro so they don't get confussed''. I disagree on the ban, it could be admin jail or a warning. Because from Semptember 4 to October 2nd I had clean recent punishment history. All I have now is Warning from Ezabila, Kick from Enzo(I was bugged and couldn't relog.) I disagree on the ban as it's too much harsh, I did not had agression on my attitude, I just looked that way because I was angry. But ban for that...I mean, I know I won't get unbanned, even if you will, you will set date for at least 1 year. All I wanna say is, a ban for such a reason, I totaly disagree.

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You seem to agree your reaction was exceeded, but you do not agree on the punishment itself. I see yet zero apology or guilt demonstration regarding what you have done to the player. I have zero guarantee you wouldn't do that again were you in the same position.

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It's not the way it looks like. I do apologize for that, I went little bit too far, but I mean. The punishment was decided by you, and no one can change it, I'm okay with that. I don't have remorse at all as I know what I've done. I apologize for stuff I did, and...I wish this never would've happend. Also I know it's unacceptable what I did, but my future in Valrise depends on your decision now so yeah.

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Revaluate the way you interact with administration. your diction is of a demanding manner. You're not doing yourself any favors with that kind of diction. Now wait and sit until the Community Manager handling this responds. 

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Hold up. You thought it was some kind of attitude? When I ask nice, people say I'm toxic. When I'm being toxic, people think I'm nice. So the world is drunk or it is me? It can't be my fault because of my manners and how I approach people, is it my fault sir? I ment ''mess'' so I could apologize for the newbie I insulted because he blocked me on discord pm's. And about asking the time how long will it take, because people miss me. I have friends, you have them too. You really know what is the feeling when someone is waiting, don't you? I know you gonna deny this once you gonna see this message because you will think I'm toxic which I'm not. Regards.

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Evening Josh.

 

It's unfortunate to see you here again, though not surprising.

Here's what was mentioned in DM's last time:

 

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Yet here you are.

 

We've tried giving you chances, that hasn't worked. 

You seemed to be improving, but it was clearly just a façade.

 

We do not need toxic people like you to ruin the experience of others.

 

Your ban appeal is denied, and will continue to be denied. You will not be getting an unban.

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